====== YAG Laser Power PCB investigation ====== The YAG was bought working, and at some stage has failed, either in transport or on initial powerup. This page documents our investigation. ====== People involved ====== * Joshua Hogendorn * Ryan Marple * Lucas Oldfield * Murray Wayper * Dave Seff ====== TASK TRACKING MEGATICKET ====== https://trello.com/c/sBcr3kQj ====== Timeline ======= * 03/09/2020: Machine Purchased known working * 26/02/2021: Power installed onsite * ??/02/2021: Transformer sourced * 02/04/2021: Transformer box sourced * 06/04/2021: First Power On * Status: * chiller wouldnt power on. * motion control powered on. * pc not booting - resolved by members reseating components. * power module flickering screen and no boot * https://www.dropbox.com/s/eldv4ux22z8nick/210406%20222947.mov?dl=0 * https://www.dropbox.com/s/23sh0o3o3rue09m/210420%20223305.mov?dl=0 * Images * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828951410204606474/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828952464807297044/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828952974746714162/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828956413325606912/image02.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828956810160898068/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828958544773906472/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828968948321091634/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828951410204606474/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828970022604636170/image0.jpg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/828978745041354782/image0.jpg * Actions taken: * Swapped phases in the control box at the circuit breaker to get power on with chiller, this let everything except the laser power module work * 07/04/2021: @beau has an investigate * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408214557564338176/829265046512205834/IMAG3262.jpg * 13/04/2021: @moltenaluminium finds the fuses are bad/loose and replaced the 3-phase input diodes PART:BY448CT-ND DESC: DIODE AVALANCHE 1500V 2A SOD57 Vishay General Semiconductor - Diodes Division ( / BY448TR * 21/04/2021: First investigation by @badbiki, notes theres been a diode blown and caused a chain reaction of ics failing, * 26/04/2021: @badbiki replaces a large amount of components on the power board. * U107 (LM358) was a 32Vdc part on a 38Vdc regulated Vcc rail. __A input voltage surge__ is the likely cause of this IC failure * Failed chip identified by large temperature increase and current draw on benchtop power supply. * 27/04/2021: Board powers on * https://www.dropbox.com/s/e0t48p53040md9k/210427%20092115.jpeg?dl=0 * https://www.dropbox.com/s/5vz8j3qsmfuwylu/210427%20092118.jpeg?dl=0 * 18/05/2021: Phases are swapped back in the control box, and are swapped at the transformer in the box instead. This is where we start to get the INPUT UNV error. @badbiki did we replace more components at this point? i think we did... * https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6jn4oprjv0neir/210517%20235933.mov?dl=0 * 19/05/2021: More investigation * Images (thermal camera): * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803784074157883452/844382116191404032/31B8EEF8-7DA6-48F6-BA50-F96F2BDFAACC_1_105_c.jpeg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803784074157883452/844382124449595463/ACDF85A9-77CB-4B9E-9566-F85795ED48FC_1_105_c.jpeg * https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803784074157883452/844382127570944030/8562DDA0-9F5B-42A6-A483-EF09F439DC86_1_105_c.jpeg * 23/08/2021: 3rd party sparky has a look, notes phases are mismatched going into black box 1, sorts it out so phases are the same from transformer to control box and to black box 1. notes no other obvious issues. Tests the transformer voltage and resistance, notes it is identical to the tortech within a few volts. only difference is about 65ohm resistance between neutral and phase. * 27/08/2021: Optocoupler U113 seems the likely culprit for error UNV. It was originally a TL250 which has a input current range of 6.5-10mA. The replacement IC used is a ACPL312T which has an input current range of 0.8mA-5mA. Since the original IC requires a minimum 6.5mA, it is likely the new IC has been overcurrented and damaged. ====== Documentation ====== === Live Board Documentation / Investigation === {{url>https://viewer.diagrams.net/?highlight=0000ff&layers=1&nav=1&title=YAG%20Power%20PCB#Uhttps%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fuc%3Fid%3D1nMQZQYhBjqdC2IYl0H2gw0X8YuiUrZW_%26export%3Ddownload 100%,1055px|PCB Documentation}} [[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nMQZQYhBjqdC2IYl0H2gw0X8YuiUrZW_/view?usp=sharing|EDIT]] === Other Resources === [[https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yto9wqoaananfa9/AAC3zuEl9lnK6Lz4w2ZlZiJ6a?dl=0|Josh's pics/videos on dropbox]] [[https://nextcloud.bikinet.net/s/gppC3ogBB6JDzpc|Bikis FileServer passowrd = p3XC2Cfw]] === Docs === * {{ :tools:metalshop:yag_laser_precise_operation_manual.pdf | Manual }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yag-laser_focus.pdf | Original focus instructions }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yag-laser_alignment.pdf | Original alignment instructions }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yag-laser_chiller.pdf | Original Chiller instructions }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yag-laser_email01.pdf | Original Email One }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yag-laser_email02.pdf | Original Email Two }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:laserdesign.pdf | Yag laser operation reference }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_650w_diagram.pdf | yag 650w_diagram }} * {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:sbw150722_detailed_english_manual_of_yag_pulse_laser_power_supply_for_welding_system.pdf | manual }} * [[ https://wiki.hsbne.org/_media/tools/metalshop/yaglaser/diagnostics/whatsapp_chat_with_goldenlaser.png | chat with golden laser rep ]] * Preburn fail documentation from manufacturer: * https://www.dropbox.com/s/rr1sqv4jyd9q8r3/210427%20122854.jpeg?dl=0 * https://www.dropbox.com/s/gc414x0m6l13wht/210427%20122909.jpeg?dl=0 === Professional Repair Options === [2:17 PM] devians: glenn@seq.net.au [2:17 PM] devians: https://seq.net.au/industrial-electronic-equipment-repair-and-refurbishment/ SEQ Electronics & Electrical SEQ Electronics Industrial Electronic Equipment Repair For Industrial Electronic Equipment Repair and Refurbishment, Contact SEQ Electronics and we will take care of you. [2:18 PM] devians: $150/hr [2:18 PM] devians: dude was good to talk to on the phone [2:18 PM] devians: https://www.onlineautomation.com.au/ < $160/hr, kind of a dick on the phone === Discord chats === https://discord.com/channels/400970379394285568/803784074157883452/836212781015236609 https://discord.com/channels/400970379394285568/803784074157883452/831690038261710898 https://discord.com/channels/400970379394285568/803784074157883452/834241425256087573 https://discord.com/channels/400970379394285568/803784074157883452/844374810087915591 https://discord.com/channels/400970379394285568/803784074157883452/879217793596289046 === Board ICs === | **Part #** | **Description** | **Qty** | **Datasheet** | | MAX3093E | Quad RS422/232 Recievers | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:max3093e-max3094e.pdf }} | | CD4053M | 3-Channel Analog Multiplexer | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:cd4053.pdf }} | | LM358 | Dual Opamp | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:lm358.pdf }} | | TLP250 | IGBT/MOSFET Gate Driver | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:tlp250.pdf |}} | | LM311 | Differential Comparator | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:lm311.pdf }} | | CD4068BM | 8-Input NAND/AND Gate | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:cd4068b.pdf }} | | 4N25 | Octocoupler, Phototransistor Output | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:4n25.pdf }} | | HEF40106BT | Hex Inverting Schmitt Trigger | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hef40106b.pdf }} | | HEF4013BT | Dual D-Type Flip Flop | 2 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hef4013b.pdf }} | | LM339DG | Single Supply Quad Comparator | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:lm339_d-2314805.pdf }} | | HEF4093BT | Quad 2-input NAND Schmitt trigger | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hef4093b.pdf }} | | SG3525AP | Regulating Pulse Width Modulator | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:sg3525ap.pdf }} | | CD4071BM | CMOS OR Gates | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:cd4071b.pdf }} | | IR2153S | Half Bridge Driver | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:infineon-ir2153-datasheet-v01_00-en.pdf }} | | 3844B | Current Mode PWM Controllers | 1 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:3844b.pdf }} | | ST 393A | Dual Voltage Comparators | 3 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:lm193.pdf }} | | TLP184 | Octocoupler | 2 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:tlp184.pdf |}} | == Imaging == === Controller === | Controller front | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-board-controller_front.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | Controller back | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-board-controller_back.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | Controller blend | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-controller_blend.png?direct&200 |}} | | Controller screen | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-board-screen.jpg?direct&200 |}} | === Header IDs === | DC pins 01 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_dc_pin_01.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | DC pins 02 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_dc_pin_02.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | DC pins 03 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_dc_pin_03.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | DC pins 04 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_dc_pin_04.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | DC pins 05 | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_dc_pin_05.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | DIN board | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:yag_din_board.jpg?direct&200 |}} | === DC Power === | HV DC Pair | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-hv_dc_pair.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | HV DC front | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-hv_dc_front.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | HV DC back | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-hv_dc_back.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | HV DC blend | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-hv_dc_blend.png?direct&200 |}} | === Chassis === | | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-power_01.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-power_02.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-power_03.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-power_04.jpg?direct&200 |}} | | | {{ :tools:metalshop:yaglaser:diagnostics:hsbne-yag-power_05.jpg?direct&200 |}} |