Mill, CNC - Toptech M4 Siemens-802C
Table of Contents
Aliases | “Hildi”, “Metalshop CNC” |
Other References | |
Official Maintainer | Eris Ryan |
Current Status
Working
Machine is working as expected.
Usage
This machine requires induction to use.
Due to the ease by which this tool can be damaged much of this course will be hands on. You will need your project and stock metal to use. Alternatively if you have a one-off item Dave Seff or Eris Ryan may be able to do it with you if you ask nicely, saving the need for induction.
- Fusion 360 workflow (online)
- Milling machine basics (online)
- Using the M4 CNC (online)
- Turning tool on and restoring non-volatile memory
- Tooling programming / setup / machine limitations / zeroing to a reference point.
- Loading your Gcode file on the CNC
- The actual machining process
- Packing up and cleaning
Guidelines
Language change: In back of controller move selection key to 1 Menu Rightmost blue option key
Key
Third blue option key from left (middle key)
Memory restore: Menu, diagnostics blue button, >, startup. startup switch, down to power up with saved data, blue button “OK”. Machine restarts. Reference to zero.
Tooling: ALWAYS assume the tool setup with either be wrong or blank if you didn't just set it up yourself. Tool changes need to be done manually.
If machining steels, use coolant (press k6). If you use coolant, please buy more (see below in consumables). If machining aluminum, plastic, brass or other soft materials use air instead of coolant it's less messy.
Personal Protective Equipment
Required | ![]() | Always wear AS/NZS 1337.1 compliant safety glasses while operating this machine. |
Required | ![]() | Enclosed shoes are required, no open sandals, thongs etc |
Required | ![]() | Restrain hair while operating machine |
Prohibited | ![]() | Loose clothing and jewellery not to be worn while operating this machine. |
Recommended | ![]() | We recommend hearing protection. |
Warning | ![]() | Entanglement hazard present while wearing gloves. |
Maintenance | ![]() | Disconnect power to the machine before performing maintenance, including wheel changes |
Machine Specifications
Name | Value |
---|---|
Capacity | |
Milling Capacity Cutter Head | Ø80 |
Milling Capacity End Mill Cutter | Ø32 |
Milling Accuracy | |
Repeating Accuracy | ±0.01mm |
Positioning Accuracy | ±0.025/300mm |
Spindle | |
Spindle Taper | BT40 |
Spindle Speed | 115-3100rpm |
Distance spindle-column | 275mm |
Drill-Mill Head | |
Z-axis travel | 530mm |
Z Feed Rate | 1500mm/min |
Cross Table | |
Table (LxW) | 850x240mm |
Y-axis Travel | 240mm |
Y Feed Rate | 2000mm/min |
X-axis Travel | 500mm |
X Feed Rate | 2000mm/min |
T-Slot Size | 18mm/80mm/3 |
Distance Spindle-Cross Table (Max) | 530mm |
Electric Supply | |
Motor | 2.2kW DC |
Coolant Pump | 40W |
Dimensions and Weight | |
Overall Dimension (LxWxH) | 1900x1185x2126 |
Weight | 800kg |
Documents
Physical manuals are located on the easternmost library top shelf.
HSBNE Manual: HSBNE Pre-Wiki
Operation Manuals
Description of Functions
Operation and Programming
Start-Up Manual
Diagnostics Guide
Parameter Manual
Flash File
Use this file to reset HILDI's memory:
Flash File
Fusion360 Post Processor
SolidCAM Post Processor
Siemens 802C SolidCAM Post Processor v0.1
Siemens 802C SolidCAM Post Processor Source v0.1
The SolidCAM post processor is a modified Siemens 802D post processor. Contact Ryan Marple if you experience any issues.
Manufacturer
Manufacturer
- Foreign Sales Manager: Manager Feng
Phone: +86-0514-82085021
Mobile: +86-17761805030
Email: davidfeng@toptechmachine.cn
Fax: +86-0514-85860395
QQ : 715856973 Skype : davidfeng0430
Reseller
Not applicable machine was donated.
Known Identical Models
Different size but identical construction:
Known Issues
Date | Description | Workaround | Proposed Remediation |
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01/10/2020 | Hildi looses memory if powered down, turns Chinese | Follow reloading procedure in guidelines | Purchase an uninterruptable power supply |
Modifications / Repair History
Date | Modified By | Description | Remediation | Cost |
---|---|---|---|---|
01/08/2020 | Eris Ryan | Coolant pump not working. | Replaced coolant line, added air blower system. Turned pump back on | $70.16 |
1/08/2020 | Eris Ryan | No arbour for facemill. | Bought one from Hare+Forbes, added own teeth x 7 | $93.50 |
5/10/2020 | Eris Ryan | Existing clamping will not fit table | Buy 12mm sheet steel, drill thread M12 holes to fit existing clamp kit (approved by vote 15/09/20) | $250.44 |
Accessories
Image | Category | Accessory Name & Notes | Location | Buy from |
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PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbour Rest | Bolted to wall next to CNC | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbor #1 suit metric inserts | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbor #2 suit metric inserts | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbor #3 suit metric inserts | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbor #4 suit metric inserts | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbor #5 suit drill bits | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | Arbor #6 suit 50mm facemill | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | large machine vice | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool Holder | medium cream vice | Right CNC Cupboard | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
PLACEHOLDER Image, 100 width | Tool | 50mm Facemill | attached to Arbor #6 | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
Tool Holder | ER25 collet chuck set x 14 | Right CNC Cupboard in wooden box | Hare&Forbes Machinery House Rocklea. |
Consumables & Running Costs
Image | Category | Accessory Name & Notes | Location | Buy from |
---|---|---|---|---|
![]() | Lubricant | Machine Self Oiling Lubricant | Refil tank is up the back of right CNC cupboard. Store bottle RHS CNC cupboard. | https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mobil-Vacuoline-Vacoline1409-way-lube-oil-for-bridgeport-mill-lathe/202464930621?epid=7022444539&hash=item2f23d9ab3d:g:mssAAOSw5HxfOe3e |
![]() | Coolant/Lubricant | Water soluble cutting fluid for refilling coolant tank | Left CNC cupboard - note large empty bottle is for diluting fluid with water | https://www.totaltools.com.au/62306-holemaker-500ml-soluble-metal-working-fluid-spfluid (don't use the Hare&Forbes coolant as it coagulates over time) |
![]() | Tooling | APMT 103504PDER-H Carbide Inserts - Milling grade ACZ330 10mm | Manual Milling/Lathe accessory trolley, vending machine. | https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/L059 |
![]() | Tooling | HSTM12x1.75SFBLU Cobalt M12 Spiral Flute Tap | Right CNC Cupboard | https://www.bolt.com.au/m12-175-spiral-flute-blue-high-speed-steel-tap-p-100370.html |
Maintenance
Interval | Task |
---|---|
Before each use | Lubricate all slideways (check automatic oiler tank has oil and slides appear lubricated) |
Before each use | Lubricate all dove tail slots (check automatic oiler tank has oil and parts appear lubricated) |
Weekly on Tuesday | Lubricate all unpainted steel parts (slide table) WD40 or oily rag is OK. |
As Required | readjust x&y axis at Taper gips loosen clockwise adjusting screw of taper grip at x&y axis, check gips for smooth movement along guide direction. |
As Required | readjust z axis at Taper gips loosen clockwise adjusting screw of taper grip at z axis, check gips for smooth movement along guide direction. |
Every 6 Months | Open the rear cover of the headstock and lubricate the gears and clutch etc. (check if the auto lubrication system is working) |
RACI
PLACEHOLDER A RACI is an important documentation process to let people know what ACTIONS can happen, and who needs to be Responsible, Accountable, Consulted and Informed for each ACTION. Delete this line.
Task / Action | Executive | Cause Leader Cause Team | Named Maintainer | Trainers | Cause | Membership | Implementer |
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Modification and Repairs | - | AC | C | I | I | I | R |
Induction changes | C | RACI | RC | I | I | I | R |
Risk Matrix and Mitigation
PLACEHOLDER: Risk assessment is important to ensure we are making tools available to members in a responsible fashion. Please make every effort to do a reasonable risk assessment. If there is a safety incident with the tool, please redo a risk assessment and add it to the table.
Ref / ID | Pre-Mitigation | Mitigations / Warnings / Remedies | Post Mitigation | ||||||
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Risk | Risk Severity | Risk Likelyhood | Risk Level | Risk Severity | Risk Likelyhood | Risk Level | Acceptable to Proceed | ||
0001 | DEATH | Intolerable | Possible | 11 | Induction to train users in correct usage - interlocks installed to prevent access while machine running. | Low | Virtually impossible | 1 | Yes |
0002 | Break Tooling | Unwanted | Likely | 5 | Induction to train in correct usage. Wooden board (LHS CNC cupboard) placed under tool before machine is switched off | Low | Unlikley | 1 | Yes |
0003 | Damage CNC | Unwanted | Likely | 5 | Induction to train in correct usage. Lockout machine without swipe card. | Low | Unlikley | 1 | Yes |
0004 | Slip over | Intolerable | Possible | 5 | Ensure coolant lines are in place over tank, be aware of leaks as coolant makes floors very slippery. | Low | Unlikley | 1 | Yes |
Decision Register
PLACEHOLDER: A decision register is for general documentation when some decision is made regarding the tool. To change its location, mode of operation, to buy an accessory, to replace something, to change how it operates etc. Delete this line.
Ref / ID | Decision Details | Impact | Proposed Date | Proposed By | Status | Approved By | Date | Resulting Actions and Comments |
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0000 | Buy accessories for mill, airline, repairs, addition of M12 table sized tool/mounting plate | Allows easy clamping, steel milling, aluminium and plastic milling | 02/09/2020 | ER | Approved | VOTE | 15/09/2020 | A line was put in the register - Eris to purchase/build |
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